Ebbro Interview Part 9, New Challenges as Ebbro


New Challenges as Ebbro
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----Okay, these last rounds will be about Ebbro from here on in…  First, when Ebbro became a serious 1/43 diecast miniature car brand, were there any differences from the enjoyment you had when designing or producing plastic models?

Plastic models are something with which the customer him or herself enjoys the process of assembling, aren’t they?  Diecast models differ greatly from plastic models in that they’re complete pre-painted products, and they’re wholly apart from the product value you get with that assembly process, only having value in their finished state.

So you can do away some manufacturing processes, or hide some processes so they’re completely invisible.  That was a lot of fun at first, because I hadn’t done anything like that in my plastic model design days.

----But turning that around, was there anything that you were dissatisfied with, or where you felt there was something missing with your 1/43 diecast models, when compared to designing or producing plastic models?

Umm.., (silence for a while) there was something missing in everything.

Well because it’s China, sometimes when we’d get a mold I’d say “I want this fixed a little here” and it wouldn’t be fixed very well, and to be honest their testing limits were pretty low at first…  When I’d been developing the Collector’s Club for Tamiya we didn’t do anything by halves at any point, and I was instructed never to do anything by halves the whole way through, so it was different in that respect.

----By diving into 1/43 diecast models so whole-heartedly then, did you feel that anything in particular changed inside of you, or that you’d gained something as compared to your Tamiya days?

Well, that’s got to be my attitude towards business.

For example, today’s Super GT wasn’t very popular back when it went by the name JGTC, and I didn’t think it would ever become big league.  In the JGTC days, you could take afternoon naps in the Fuji Speedway stands at the races.  That’s how low its popularity was…  However the machines themselves have become interesting in recent years, so I had these “I want to commercialize this!” moments.

So, I asked the association that administers the GT and some automotive manufacturers to allow me to commercialize, and from there you know, things started to sell like hotcakes.  In the beginning we’d produce minimums of 3000 diecast units, and have about 1000 units left over actually.  But then we started to sell more and more, and soon we’d sell 3000 units in a flash and I‘d think, “Oooh!?  Maybe I can get by on this?”

----Ah, I see.  Ebbro has been about historic cars from the start, so… 

Yeah.  I’ve mainly wanted to do historic cars.  I was meaning to make a specialized “1000 history making cars of Japan” series you know.

----So, being involved with GT changed your business style?

Yes it did.  And when that happened, not only customers but wholesalers, retail shops, and the people caught up in historic GT started buying from us too.  It was a synergistic effect.  Ebbro really started rolling with GT.

----About how many cars in your GT line are you selling now, by the way?

Well, you know, it was fantastic in ’08, and sometimes we’d go up to 10,000 units.  That’s at 3000 units again now, though.  It dropped back pretty fast.

----What do you think the reasons for that are?

Well.., to put it simply in a word, I guess it’s “boredom”.  People have them piled high in the house and think “I just can’t collect any more”, then there was the economic troubles after the Lehman shock, and prices rising…  And this year with the weak yen, things have gone up 20% automatically, and with Chinese factories up 15%, there’s not a lot model manufacturers can do about it.

----Indeed, people do just suddenly get tired of collecting diecast models one day, for whatever reasons.  Actually, I’ve already just about retired from it, and have been holding off from purchases.

On the other hand, purchasing desire and interest in plastic models just seems to continue slowly but surely, across the board…

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really is that way isn’t it.  What is it about plastic models that’s so addictive?  That’s where they clearly differ from diecast models.